June 17, 2008

  • Biblical Eschatology Revisited



    Babylon in Revelation: The Answer – Part 2

    The question that was left to us in the last post on this subject was
    “what is Babylon?” We had a lot of clues and we’ve had time to think
    about this and now it is time to answer this question.  Some people
    have figured it out but many more simply don’t know.  One cannot look
    at one aspect of Babylon in these verses and suggest a country like the
    U.S. saying it is Babylon. Why? While the U.S. indeed has some grievous
    sin to account for, it lacks the open and bloody persecution of Jews
    and Christians, a requirement in the characteristics mentioned about
    Babylon. So we keep looking… and perhaps if we select a few key bits of
    evidence, we can zero in a bit better on what Babylon is

    In order to come to the best answer on this, we need to consider these
    characteristics in a broad fashion.  For instance, “immorality” as a
    clue isn’t just “sexual perversion”. It covers a lot more things that
    are “immoral” including the worship of false gods just as was the point
    of God’s message to Israel during her time of such activity. It can
    even extend to improper treatment of people.

    Actually, the most troublesome clue might be the best clue… Babylon
    being responsible for all the blood of those ever slain on the earth.
    Now that takes us back to Cain.  What was Cain doing?  He was
    “worshipping God however he saw fit” and did not come to Him in the way
    He prescribed. Those who are wise will realize that those who do this
    declare themselves “god” because they can deem what is appropriate
    worship and what is not instead of God Himself. He didn’t stop at that.
    He killed his brother Abel who was righteous before God. He also
    rejected the judgment of God, for that murder. Now God had said he was
    to be a vagrant and wanderer in the world.  In defiance of this, he
    built his own city to provide for his own redemption from such a
    judgment. So we have already noted that Babylon involves the worship of
    a false God, corrupting God’s word and defiance of it to create its own
    “true message” and by extension the prohibiting of others to hear what
    God truly has to say (censorship). It also involves the persecution and
    murder of the righteous and godly in martyrdom, and acts of preventing
    God’s judgment to fall upon themselves by inventing ways to insure
    against calamity by seeking power and control over the situation.

    So how is this sort of thing still manifested in the world?
    Religiously, we can see it everywhere only it may not take the form of
    “religion”. Sometimes, religion has more to do with “secular” things
    like it is with environmentalism, secular humanism, etc. Each of these
    things take a bit of truth and stretch it to the proportions necessary
    to achieve their ends even to the point of outright pre-meditated
    deception and manipulation. Sometimes such things start in the
    religious realm and then cross over into the secular. A recent news
    article reported on a famous preacher on the political scene for a
    particular interest group was identified as using his ability to cause
    “boycotts” from his constituency to blackmail companies in order to
    receive large sums of money himself (how about his constituents?). 
    Each of these systems within the workings of Babylon have their own
    concepts of “righteousness”, “sin”, and “redemption”. Environmentalism,
    probably the most recent to show its hand, measures these things based
    on one’s “carbon footprint” as if living on this planet by God’s grace
    is some sort of sin that needs atonement through the purchase of
    “carbon credits”. Those of you that are perceptive will realize this is
    the same thing as “indulgences” that could be purchased in the Catholic
    Church in the Reformation period to allow people to buy “forgiveness”
    for their “indulgence in their sins”. The point here is not to put any
    particular blame on that church but simply point out such activities
    seem to happen in all areas of human experience. Now environmentalists,
    as a group, aren’t the only ones creating a “religion” apart from God.
    Such is the religion of Babylon.

    Moving on, we should consider something else about Cain. He was the
    first person in scripture to build a city and he built it for his son.
    What could this mean? Could it not be said that God, the Creator of
    heaven and earth, was to have a Son for whom He would build a city i.e
    “Jerusalem”. So Cain, in rebellion, names his city after “his son”
    named Enoch (of Cain’s lineage, not Seth’s) and by implication of other
    circumstances, that “city” becomes very wicked and violent. Should we
    miss the blatant claim that “man is God” and what comes from it in this
    seemingly little detail in scripture? Isn’t this what we also see of
    Babylon in Revelation? Will not the Beast (aka the man of sin) also do
    the same? Now we know that Cain’s “city”, the antediluvian “Babylon”,
    is destroyed in the Flood but it is only a few hundred years after the
    flood that Nimrod shows up, a mighty one on the earth (apparently like
    those who were destroyed in the Flood which also suggests that he was
    wicked and violent). We might even come to that conclusion since both
    Babel (aka Babylon) and Nineveh, cities he built, were known for that
    very thing. Nimrod could be called the first of a long line of
    post-Flood “high priests” of Babylon the Great.

    Now it is interesting that Babylon again appears as an empire to bring
    Israel into captivity for 70 years, starting the “times of the
    Gentiles” as was given by Nebuchnezzar’s dream in Daniel 2. In that
    chapter, we found that there were to be five kingdoms, the last
    represented by the “feet”, of which would hold onto control of
    Jerusalem until the time of the Gentiles was complete (Luke 21:24).
    History tells us that the prophecy was correct and specifically the
    most important point in Jerusalem is the Temple Mount on which elements
    of Islam have a lock grip and that has been the way it has been since
    638 AD with only a few inconsequential breaks of that possession.  

    We can certainly see from the clues from the last post that Babylon is
    everywhere and even portions of Islam is part of that as well. It needs
    to also be noted that in the same verses in Revelation 17 & 18 that
    tell us that the Beast and Babylon the Great are two different things.
    One is the real mystical Babylon and the other is the Beast who, in his
    treachery, plots to destroy Babylon and will achieve this even as
    Babylon “rides” on the Beast before that happens.


    And the ten horns which you saw, and the beast, these will hate the
    harlot and will make her desolate and naked, and will eat her flesh and
    will burn her up with fire. For God has put it in their hearts to
    execute His purpose by having a common purpose, and by giving their
    kingdom to the beast, until the words of God will be fulfilled.

    Revelation 17:16-17 (NASB)

    The most obvious example of how something like this can happen is to
    listen to the rhetoric of some particularly vocal elements of Islam
    today. So the intention of these “radical elements” is to destroy just
    about everything in the world particularly Israel and the U.S. if it
    makes sure that Islam dominates the entire world.  One of the most
    conspicuous characteristics of these people today are their “boasting”.
    The description of the final beast as a boaster is certainly supported
    in the text of Daniel 7.


    Then I kept looking because of the sound of the boastful words which
    the horn was speaking; I kept looking until the beast was slain, and
    its body was destroyed and given to the burning fire.
      Daniel 7:11
    (NASB)

    In these two passages, we’ve have seen we see how God will dispense
    judgment upon the evil in this world system as manifested by the evils
    of Babylon and that of Satan’s representative and mouthpiece, the Beast.

    So in identifying one, we have gotten closer to identifying the other.
    A curious thing to note is the possibility that the personage that is
    “the Beast” is also likely a turncoat against the harlot (Babylon).
    Both may even have the same backgrounds. It could very well be that if
    this Beast is the Shia Muslim messiah, the Mahdi, it could very well be
    that he will indeed turn upon the Muslims that support him and destroy
    them and the rest of Babylon as well unknowingly according to God’s
    purpose. With his remaining army which would seem to be still quite
    large, would begin to take on Jerusalem which will be his undoing. This
    possibility comes from some study of Islamic eschatology that I’ve made
    reference to in an earlier post, “Discovering God’s Character:
    Implications – Part 17E”(located on the sidebar) and relating it to what the scriptures
    actually says will happen to come to that conclusion. However, the Beast using
    nuclear weapons to destroy the Babylon world system as we know it is also a
    possibility.

    It is hoped that this study has helped some in your quest to understand
    biblical eschatology and the portion of Revelation involving Babylon as
    well.  The purpose here is to help us have a better understanding of
    what the Lord gave us in Revelation and at a minimum helps us take that
    writing out of the realm of the “totally mysterious” and “brings it
    into a very stark and possible reality” because we can see that the
    things written about in Revelation are not so “figurative” as we might
    have imagined.  Some of these things can be quite obvious and appear as
    very real and dangerous possibilities and others give us the certain
    hope that as we go through this ordeal, the Lord, the God of Abraham,
    Isaac, and Jacob, the only one and true God, Creator of heaven and
    earth will send His Son, Jesus Christ to do exactly what He has told us
    in the scriptures. He will reign in Jerusalem. Islam and Babylon will
    be no more. Israel will realize the One who came to die for their sin
    was the One, their long awaited Messiah… and that is the subject of the
    next post.  Blessings, Mr.Vee

Comments (2)

  • thank you for tying this together so nicely.  I have read much of the same conclusions elsewhere but no one has ever pulled it all together so well for me before.  p.s. thank you for your kind words & prayers, they mean more than you could ever know.

  • @illgrindmyownthankyou - 

    Your welcome. There’s more to come if I can get it finished. I have continued to pray for you and hope that you’ve found some improvement on what you were describing. Blessings, Mr.Vee

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