February 11, 2008

  • Biblical Eschatology Revisited



    A Closer Look at Daniel 7



    Often the vision in Daniel 7 is used to confirm that there are really
    only four Gentile empires in Daniel 2. However, is this conclusion
    necessary? It is not. There is nothing I’ve found in those verses that
    forces us to come to that conclusion. One of our first clues is that in
    regard to this vision, Daniel is exceedingly troubled about this one as
    opposed to the one in regards to Nebuchadnezzar’s dream, which he was
    not and affirmed to Nebuchanezzar that what God said was true and would
    come to pass. Why would Daniel be troubled if the vision was the same?
    The truth is that … it wasn’t the same… but as we will find, they are
    related.

    So what does correlate between the two? The subject matter concerning
    them both is the destruction of the final Gentile empire. There are to be three beasts that probably relate to something but evidence that is confirmable about them has not been identified although I have heard some conjecture about it. Anyway, given what we will find, these
    first three beasts, at a minimum,  give us a clue to the fourth.  If we focus on
    these beasts to the exclusion of what else is found in Daniel 7, we
    will miss some very important details that we really have no reason to
    be confused about.

    Let’s make a list of some of these important details that was found:


    1.    The Fourth Beast of Daniel is the same as the Beast from the sea in Revelation 13.

           a.    It is here that we have the first mention of a terrible beast
    with some remarkable details that students of 
                  the book of Revelation
    will notice immediately such as ten horns on its head and boasting /
    blasphemies
                  are characteristic of this beast. If we care to compare
    this beast in Revelation 13 to the description of
                  the Dragon, in
    Revelation 12:3, we will find a remarkable similarity.  The Dragon is
    definitively described 
                  as Satan in Revelation 12:9

    2.    This beast will wage war with the saints and overpower them.

           a.    Compare Daniel 7:21 with Revelation 13:7. We can even see that
    Satan is behind this as well. 
                  (Revelation 12:17.) If this association
    is correct, these saints are described in further detail in the
                  Revelation 12
    passage as “the children of the woman (the woman is interpreted as
    Israel by the context)
                  and also described as those “who keep the
    commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus”.
                  This is a
    curious description since that isn’t typically how Christians, in
    general, are usually identified.
                  This certainly warrants more study.

    3.    This Beast will have all the characteristics of the beasts that came before it.

           a.    It is in Daniel 7 that we learn of several beasts coming up out
    of the sea, with each having a different 
                 description. one a lion, one a
    bear, and one a leopard. In Revelation 13:2 we learn that a beast that

                 comes out of the sea will have all of these traits (lion, bear, and
    leopard) in itself.
          
    b.    It may be important to positively identify who the “lion, bear,
    and leopard” are. However, we may have
                  enough to identify the fourth
    beast now without that.

    4.    The heavenly scene of Daniel 7 looks remarkably like Revelation 4
    & 5. Indeed the chapter seems
           like a very short synopsis of a good
    portion of Revelation.

           a.    Note that Daniel 7:9-14 has a remarkable resemblance to the scene
    and events mentioned in 
                 Revelation chapters 4 & 5 with Daniel
    including a comment of the ultimate result of Christ’s second 
                 coming
    and the destruction of this beast and what is to follow. Indeed, we
    could almost think we were
                 seeing the same event seen from different
    perspectives (Daniel’s & John’s) with different levels of detail.

                 Compare the two passages and see if this is not so.

    5.    Given the focus on the final beast of the four presented, there
    appears to be no conflict with Daniel 
           2’s list of 5 Gentile world
    empires.

           a.    This passage does not have to be in conflict with the previous
    information we received in Daniel 2. Since
                  this was after
    Nebuchadnezzar and Babylon had already risen to the world scene, there
    would still be
                  four remaining Gentile empires that would come.
          
    b.    Also, there is no compelling reason to line them up exactly with Daniel 2. Some have tried and it did not
                  work out well.

    6.    The Beast we see here is remarkably destructive.

           a.    We see here that the fourth beast, which has remarkable
    correlation to the description to the one
                  revealed in Revelation 13
    will be extraordinarily destructive. See Daniel 7:19. Curiously, could
    this be the
                  meaning for the “abomination of desolation” referred to
    elsewhere? Since this beast is an abomination
                  because of his boasting
    and blasphemies who would cause destruction or desolation, we can
    easily see
                  that it would be appropriate to call it the “abomination
    that makes desolate”. In fact, a key aspect of this
                  beast in Daniel is
    that it will devour the whole earth and tread it down and crush it. If
    we take a look at
                  Revelation 17 we find the following:

                  These will wage war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them,
    because He is Lord of
                   lords and King of kings, and those who are with
    Him are the called and chosen and faithful. And
                  he said to me, "The
    waters which you saw where the harlot sits, are peoples and multitudes
    and
                  nations and tongues. And the ten horns which you saw, and the
    beast, these will hate the harlot
                  and will make her desolate and naked,
    and will eat her flesh and will burn her up with fire. For
                 God has put
    it in their hearts to execute His purpose by having a common purpose,
    and by giving
                  their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God will
    be fulfilled. The woman whom you saw is
                  the great city, which reigns
    over the kings of the earth."
    Revelation 17:14-18 (NASB)

          b.    This destructive bent of the beast will be used by God to work out judgment on the world (i.e. Babylon,
                 interpreted by context) and
    ultimately brings the beast to its end. This beast hates the world and
    is
                 determined to destroy it and consuming all that is in it. This beast
    is different than most other “conquerors”
                 in that it consumes and
    destroys everything. Usually a conqueror will simply take what they
    want and
                 subjugate all the rest for their own purposes. This beast is
    just simply a onsumer and destroyer.

    7.    The demise of the fourth beast of Daniel 2 and the Beast from the sea of Revelation 13 is the
           same.

           a.    From this, we can conclude that the fourth beast that is
    destroyed and given to the “burning fire” (Daniel
                  7:11) is one and the
    same as the beast that comes out of the sea in Revelation 13 and will
    be destroyed
                  and thrown into the Lake of Fire. (Revelation 19:20)

    8.    At the end of the fourth beast, Christ will reign over the earth along with His saints.

           a.    In both cases of Daniel 2 and Daniel 7, they both agree that
    after this beast is defeated, this last kingdom
                  will belong to Christ
    and the saints of the “Highest One”. This, of course, is exactly what
    Revelation tells
                  us as well.

    9.    We find a correlation between “time, times, and half a time” with
    other scripture to determine it as
           a definitive time period.

            a.    Daniel 7 is the first mention of “time, times, and half a time”.
    In Revelation 12, if we compare verse 6
                  with verse 14 we find that
    “time, times, and half a time” is self-interpreted to be 1260 days in
    the whole
                  passage. This is because verse 14 appears to pick up where
    verse 6 left off in the description of the
                  interaction between the
    dragon and the woman pictured in these passages. Given the subject
    matter and
                  its close association to these statements of time, it would
    appear to be well founded to consider that they
                  are both the same.
    Along with this, Revelation 13:5, mentions 42 months as the time the
    beast will have
                  authority to act. This, of course, will be the same
    amount of time that we’ve been speaking of.

    10.    Boastfulness, arrogance, and speaking blasphemies are characteristic of both references to these
             beasts

             a.    We can note the actions of the fourth beast in Daniel 7
    (especially verse 25) with the beast in Revelation
                    13 in that both say
    boastful and blasphemous things against God. (verses 5-7)

    11.    We can find an additional correlation to all we’ve found here in
    reference to the man of
             lawlessness in II Thessalonians 2.

             a.    The text here describes the man of lawlessness as…

                    Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the
    apostasy comes first, and the
                    man of lawlessness is revealed, the son
    of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above
                    every so-called
    god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of
    God,
                    displaying himself as being God. Do you not remember that while I
    was still with you, I was
                    telling you these things? And you know what
    restrains him now, so that in his time he will be
                    revealed. For the
    mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains
    will do so
                    until he is taken out of the way. Then that lawless one will
    be revealed whom the Lord will slay
                   with the breath of His mouth and
    bring to an end by the appearance of His coming; that is, the
                   one whose
    coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and
    signs and false
                   wonders, and with all the deception of wickedness for
    those who perish, because they did not
                   receive the love of the truth so
    as to be saved. For this reason God will send upon them a
                   deluding
    influence so that they will believe what is false, in order that they
    all may be judged who
                   did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in
    wickedness.
    II Thessalonians 2:3-12 (NASB)

                   Simply reading this text and comparing to what we’ve found above can
    now give us clear indication of a
                   number of new characteristics of this
    “beast” who we’ve now identified as the “man of lawlessness”.

    At any rate, such an analysis can be done by anyone without the need of
    a lot of specialized training so what is being pointed out here is
    nothing particularly special. In fact, it uses the same skills you
    might use to determine which of your children did something when at
    first glance, it doesn’t seem so clear.

    Because the scriptures are unified since they have one source. we can
    properly understand what is related to what and what is not.

    It is hoped that the reader is encouraged to investigate these things
    to ascertain their trustworthiness. As a recommendation, there are two
    things which aid in making a solid determination in matters like these.
    First, it seems to work better if one gathers all the facts before one
    makes conclusions about a matter especially with regard to eschatology.
    Second, politely disregard what other people want to tell you things
    say until you have searched the matter out completely for yourself (and then do it) and
    let the Holy Spirit teach you straight from the text. You do not need
    to be extraordinarily brilliant to do this. Besides the help from the
    Holy Spirit, this works because the Lord has already granted us
    excellent scholarship in translation work of the Bible to the point
    such that only occasional deeper searching into the Greek and Hebrew
    is necessary and usually only to clarify a point. Yet to be fair, every
    now and then there is a real nugget to find in doing this. However,
    more often than not, the Lord has been sufficiently clear in what He
    has written and this is reflected into what has been interpreted. This, of course, presumes that
    you use something like a “word for word” accurate translation like the
    NASB.

    Anyway, as you might guess, there is more to come… Blessings, Mr.Vee

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